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O/o CHIEF GENERAL MANAGER, T&D CIRCLE, SANCHAR VIKAS BHAVAN,

RESIDENCY ROAD, JABALPUR-482001 (MP)

No. TD/LP-2015/83CPTCC/04                                                                  Dated: 30-10-2004

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Sub: Minutes of 83rd  Central PTCC Meeting held at Cochi on 28-09-2004.

 

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

            Kindly find enclosed herewith the Minutes of 83rd  Central PTCC Meeting held in the Conference Hall of Avenue Centre, Panampilly Nagar, Kochi on 28th September 2004 for information and further necessary action.

 

2.         Kindly arrange to initiate follow-up action on the points as per the decisions arrived at in the meeting so as to ensure the compliance to the targets fixed for various issues.

 

4.         The next meeting will be convened in Eastern Region sometime in January 2005 in Sikkim. The exact date and venue will be intimated in due course. The presence of members from both Eastern and Nothern Regions, along with those members, whose agenda items come for the discussion in the meeting, is mandatory in this meeting. The presence of other members in the meeting is optional. Agenda items if any, for the 84th Central PTCC meeting may accordingly be sent to this office at least one month in advance.

 

            The minutes are also available at our website www.tnd.bsnl.co.in under PTCC link.

 

            Thanking you,

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

 

(R.K. Choudhary)

DGM (T) & Secretary CPTCC

[PH: :0761-2622500(O)

Fax: 0761-2322322

e-mail: ptcc@indiatimes.com

(Addressed to all Central PTCC members)


MINUTES OF 83rd CENTRAL PTCC MEETING HELD AT KOCHI ON 28.09.2004

 

 

 
 

            The 83rd Central PTCC meeting was held at Kochi on 28th September 2004.  The list of officers/participants is given in Annexure “A”.

 

At the outset Shri R.K.Choudhary, DGM(T) T&D Circle & Secretary (Telecom) CLPTCC welcomed all the participants representing Railways, Defence, CEA, Electricity Boards, Telecom and the Senior officers on the dais, Shri Krishna Kumar, CGM T&D Circle & Chairman CLPTCC, Shri S.A.Thomos, CGM, Kerala Telecom Circle, Chief of guest for the meeting, Shri. S.K. Mohan Ram, Chief Engineer (LD &T), CEA, Co-chairman, CLPTCC, Shri Ramaganapathy, CGM Karnatakla Telecom Circle, Shri P.C.Debnath, CGM NE-II Circle, Shri S.R.Pillai, PGM, Ernakulam and Shri N.Babu CE (SO) Kerala State Electricity Board.

 

Shri Hari Babu, GM(O) Ernakulam Telephones welcomed the Senior officers on dais and the participants from various departments for the 83rd CLPTCC meeting at Kochi. He said that power and telecom are the two important sectors which are essential for development of a country and are inter dependent and also stated that for better coordination between power and Telecom sectors, a Committee was formed in the year 1949 and Power & Telecom Coordination Meetings are now being held once in a year. He

 

Shri V.Krishna Kumar, CGM, T&D Circle & Chairman Central PTCC, in his address stated that after inception in 1949, the Power and Telecom Co-ordination Committee (PTCC) has come a long way in ensuring safe coexistence among various power and telecom systems and safety of telecom apparatus and personnel. Today, it still continues to have an important role in solving the technical problems, evolving standards and ensuring safe co-existence among various operating systems both in Power and Telecom sectors. He emphasized the need of strengthening PTCC coordination at Divisional and Sub divisional level in telecom circles.

He then referred to the electrocution accidents that have taken place during previous year.  He stated that out of 17 cases, 12 were fatal and 5 were non fatal. 14 of them occurred due to contact, 2 due to suspected induction and in one case the reason could not be established. In most of these cases,  power lines of 11KV and 33KV were involved which are under the purview of Divisional and State level PTCC respectively. Therefore, he insisted for a vigilant action both on power and telecom sides at both Divisional and State level. He said that majority of the accidents occurred in AP, 4 fatal and 1 non-fatal accident.

 

He further pointed out that there are sufficient provisions in the Indian Electricity Act for safeguarding the assets and personnel in general and telecom circuits in particular. Since Power and Telecom coordination is also a subject with in the jurisdiction of Central Electricity Authority, they should come out with some Rules and Regulations in order to ensure safety of telecom assets and personnel and enforce some discipline in power sector. This is all the more necessary in the scenario of entry of private operators in both power generation and distribution. He said that we should try to bring the private operators also under the purview of Central PTCC. Probably we must think of ensuring some legal sanctity and authority to Central PTCC and its directives in order to ensure proper discipline.

He requested for more coordination efforts to improve the situation further. Use of faster means of communication should be considered to avoid procedural delays in the activities involved in PTCC clearance. He drew the attention of members to the problem of unguarded power crossings, which are a potential source of danger and may result into electrocution accidents involving precious human lives. Though improvement is noticed in some telecom circles, the target of zero level is still to be eluded in most of the telecom circles. All out efforts are needed to achieve zero level as soon as possible, he said.

He stated that revision of PTCC manual 1995 edition is overdue. The work should be taken up on priority, as it is the only source for all the people involved in PTCC to get latest guidelines at one place.

He suggested that in all the PTCC correspondence, one should mention the telephone number, fax number and e-mail address of the sender invariably in order to enforce speedy communication by quickest means possible. Personal contacts among various agencies are a must in achieving tangible results and reducing delays in processing cases of PTCC clearance. He concluded wishing all success for the meeting.

 

Shri S.A.Thomas, CGM Kerala Telecom Circle and Chief Guest for the meeting welcomed all the participants from various organizations to the commercial city Kochi - of God’s own State Kerala. He agreed with the remarks of Chairman that the basic issue of hazards is 11KV and below which actually cause fatal accidents involving precious human lives. He requested the participants to implement the decisions taken in the CLPTCC meeting strictly, as any kind of lapses will cause loss of life/equipment. He stressed that “0” level accident is possible only with strict adherence of the rules and regulations of CLPTCC. He suggested finding out a method to involve other private power operators also under the purview of CLPTCC, as they are also laying cables, though most of the cables are OFC. He wished the stay of the participants at Cochi will be comfortable and the discussions in the meeting will yield fruitful results.

 

Shri S.K. Mohan Ram CE CEA and co-chairman CLPTCC, in his address stated that PTCC is a 3 tier system which deals with the problem of coordination of power & telecom lines. The SLPTCC of respective state looks after the problems of HT, EHT lines upto 132KV whereas power lines 220 KV and above are looked after by the Central PTCC. He told that the committee frames the guidelines and also review the PTCC norms periodically in the concept of technological and infrastructural changes and safety standards at par with international level. The committee discusses the problems of payment of compensation to the victims due to electrocution accidents to be paid by SEBs to BSNL in a cordial way. He thanked APTRANSO who have released the payment of Rs.38,846/- to Shri Khaza Moidin of AP Telecom Circle and, Rajasthan Vidyut Prasar Nigam Ltd., & BSEB for releasing Rs.58,856/- and Rs.2.37 lacks towards protection charges to BSNL, Rajasthan Telecom Circle and Eastern Delhi respectively. On unguarded crossings, he stated there is considerable improvement in all states. He thanked Gujarat State Elec. Board who have brought down the unguarded power crossings to “0” level. He intimated that the PTCC manual has been revised and its draft is ready and requested T&D Circle to go through the manual. He suggested to form a sub committee consisting of members from CEA, T&D Circle and Telecom Circles and 1or 2 SEBs so that comprehensive manual can be issued. He requested all concerned specially BSNL and Railways to adhere the time schedule as laid down in PTCC manual for furnishing the telecom details and also providing protective measures to help the power authorities to charge their line as per schedule. He thanked the organizers for the nice arrangements made and said that the discussions during the course of the meeting will be fruitful.

 

Shri P.C.Debnath, CGM NE-II Telecom Circle in his address stated that though no SLPTCC meetings are conducted in his area, regular interaction is being ensured with SEBs.  He informed that due to introduction of OFC cables, PTCC problems are decreasing but not reached “0” level. He reported that no fatal accident has occurred in his region. He wished the meeting all the success.

 

Shri N.Babu, CE(SO) KSEB in his address stated that codes of practice  should be followed strictly in both power & Telecom sectors in order to ensure better coordination and safety. By introduction of OFC in most of the places in Kerala, PTCC problems are becoming less. He however requested that time schedules should be adhered to by both power and telecom authorities in not only supplying the details but also in making payments and completion of protection works. He wished comfortable stay for the participants and wished the meeting a great success.

 

Shri Ramaganapthy, CGM Karnatak Telecom Circle, in his address mentioned that Power & Telecom are the basic needs of human beings, which have introduced reforms to a large extent. He stated that the department is striving for a pole-less service, which will also reduce electrical accidents. He stated that the fault current in an electrical system such a power cable in the vicinity affects the telecom cables and equipments. He has referred to an example of repeater fault at Chandranagar in Kolkata, which can be taken as a reference for study.

 

Shri S.R.Pillai, PGM, Ernakulam Telephones welcomed the participants and reiterated the importance of effective coordination measures between power and telecom sectors in order to ensure safety of telecom assets and personnel. He has called for modernization of methods in processing the cases of PTCC clearance so that delay can be avoided. He also suggested for widening the scope of Central PTCC in the over all interest of economy of the country. He wished all the participants comfortable stay and success for the meeting.

 

Shri H.C.Soni, GM T&D Circle, in his address described the reasons behind selection of the venue Cochi for the meeting and praised the beauty of Kerala and the inhabitants. He stated that both power and telecommunications use currents though the power current is very strong and that of telecom is very weak. He also informed the participants about the evolution of PTCC and its importance since its inception and described various functions  of the committees etc. He stated that PTCC studies the rules and regulations and suggests modifications, undertake scientific and field studies, examines individual cases of power and telecom line and suggests protective measures. He reiterated the importance of releasing the revised edition of PTCC manual which was last revised during 1995. He concluded wishing all the success for the meeting.

After self-introduction of all the participants, the agenda items were taken for discussion and decision.

1.0.      Confirmation of the minutes of the 82nd Central PTCC meeting held at Lucknow on 26.02.2004.

The minutes of the 82nd Central PTCC meeting were circulated by the CEA vide letter No. LD&T/1/2004/PTCC dated 31-03-2004. Since no comments/objections have been received from any member/representative of the Committee, and hence the minutes of the meeting have been confirmed.

2.0       Follow up action on the minutes of 82nd Central PTCC Meeting

2.1       Payment of compensation by GRIDCO, Orissa (78/3.2.1A) and

2.2       PTCC Clearance to 33KV Power Line charged by GRIDCO Orissa (78/3.2.2A)

The GRIDCO representative intimated that since the cases are very old (1988 and 1989)  and due to unbundling of the Board, all types assets etc., have been transferred to Transmission and Distribution companies, and GRIDCO is not having control over distribution companies, so they cannot ensure the payment of compensation. He also informed that though they have taken up the matter with distribution companies (NESCO & ESCO) no tangible results could be achieved.

Chairman and all the members present took serious view of the delay on the part of GRIDCO Orissa to release the payment in spite of repeated requests from Central PTCC and CEA. The contention of the representative from GRIDCO that CE (Transmission) is not having control over distribution companies was not accepted by Central PTCC. They said that at the time of unbundling, whatever the assets and liabilities should be the responsibility of the DISCOMs.

After prolonged discussion when the representatives of GRIDCO highlighted the non-cooperation of DISCOMs, and the prevailing indiscipline, Central PTCC passed following resolution.

“ As a nominated nodal agency of Central PTCC, CE (Transmission) of GRIDCO Orissa should ensure immediate payment of compensation to Orissa Telecom Circle thus resolving this long pending issue. The apportionment of funds should be discussed internally by them with corresponding DISCOMs and settled in due course by them.

The matters of discipling the DISCOMs to obey the PTCC codes of practice and implement the decisions of PTCC should be taken up by them at appropriate level with Secretary/Jt. Secretary Power of Orissa Government requesting them to issue necessary directives to all DISCOMs in general and defaulting DISCOMs in particular to ensure the following with in next three months:

(i).     All DISCOMs should nominate and send their representatives to SLPTCC to resolve PTCC matters with Telecom, Railway and Defence.

(ii).    All DISCOMs should ensure taking PTCC route approval from concerned authorities as per PTCC code of practice before planning/construction and energization of any new power lines/cables and desist from unilaterally charging the power lines/cables of 11KV and above without PTCC clearance, which is dangerous to the telecom assets and personnel in their vicinity.

(iii). All the DISCOMs should honour the decisions of Central PTCC in the matters of coordination and time limits specified for various activities involved in PTCC clearance of power and telecom lines and cables.

(iv). All the DISCOMs should immediately regularize the power lines already charged unilaterally without PTCC clearance by referring them to SDE (PTCC), T&D Circle, Bhubaneshwar so that protective measures on telecom assets in the vicinity of these lines can be got ensured. A subcommittee has been constituted for this purpose in 82nd Central PTCC meeting held at Lucknow, and DISCOMs may be advised to cooperate by nominating a member each in this subcommittee immediately.

            It was also decided that Chief Electrical Inspector of State Orissa should be requested by them, referring the letter written by CEA, New Delhi in this regard, to ensure that no new power lines or cables are allowed to be charged without PTCC clearance in Orissa. All the copies of the above correspondence should be endorsed to CEA, New Delhi and T&D Circle, Jabalpur. If no progress is noticed with in next three months in spite of taking up the issue at highest level possible at State level, then the matter will be referred to respective ministries at Central level by CEA, New Delhi and T&D Circle, Jabalpur for further necessary action.’

[Action: CE (Trans), GRICCO, Orissa, Orissa Telecom Circle, DET (PTCC) Kolkata, CEA, New Delhi, T&D Circle, Jabalpur]

 

2.3       Ensuring Zero level on unguarded Power crossings (78/3.4A)

            It was informed that in almost all Circles there is improvement in clearance of unguarded power crossings, but “0” level has not been achieved. However, some circles such as UP(E), Rajasthan, Haryana, Assam needs further improvement.  The representatives from these circles and concerned DETs (PTCC) were asked to take note of the position and try to achieve zero level as soon as possible. Other members to kindly ensure that no new unguarded power crossings are created in their jurisdiction. The Annexure 2 showing the circle-wise current position of unguarded power crossings is enclosed for ready reference.

[Action: All Central PTCC members]

                                                                                                                                                           

2.4       Constitution of SLPTCCs and admission of the Public Sector Corporations and Private Sector Companies involving in power and telecommunications works as Members (78/3.9A)

The DEs (PTCC) have consolidated the list of private operators as per the information received so far. Action to induct them in to respective SLPTCCs may be ensured by DEs (PTCC). Further information if any regarding private operators may please be sent to regional DET (PTCC) for further necessary action. Item is closed.

[Action: All DETs (PTCC)

 

2.5              Delay in getting PTCC clearance for armoured OFC (79/5.2A)

DET (PTCC) New Delhi informed that there is considerable reduction in pending cases and at present 38 cases are pending with RVPNL and 4 cases with CEA New Delhi. The representative from RVPNL agreed to ensure the supply of power details by respective DISCOMs for the remaining cases early. Rajasthan telecom circle and DET (PTCC) New Delhi to further pursue at local level.

[Action: RVPNL, Rajasthan Telecom Circle and DET (PTCC), New Delhi]

 

           

2.6       Re-imbursement of compensation in respect of fatal accident of late Shri Khaqzamoiddin, L/M Kurnool on 10.07.89 by APTRANSCO to AP Telecom Circle, BSNL.

(79/6.0A)

            It was informed that the payment of Rs.38,428/- has been paid by AP TRANSO Co. to AP Telecom Circle. The CLPTCC members place on record their appreciation for this gesture of APTRANSCO. Item is closed

               

2.7       Protection in cases where EPR exist for the complete duration of monopolar ER operation e.g. Kolar - Talcher +/-500 KV HVDC line (79/10.)A)

In this case, the letter from Power Grid Corporation Ltd., is found satisfactory. Hence this item is closed for the time being. If any difficulties found in future then this case will be re-opened.

 

2.8       Guidelines for laying of underground power cables greater than 33 KV in proximity with telecom cables (80/1.2)

            On this issue, the Chairman gave an example of a fire incident, which occurred in Chitaranjan Avenue Exchange, Kolkata, where a fire broke out due to close proximity of power cable. Though no life was lost and damage of telecom cable and exchange equipment is reported. He requested all the participants to strictly follow the guidelines of PTCC so  as to avoid such accidents and damage to telecom installations. In this case however the case will further be investigated in order to decide the later entrant etc. and further action will be taken at state level PTCC. Item is closed.

 

2.9       Eneragization of 11KV power lines without PTCC clearance in Rajasthan and Kerala Teleccom Circle (80/3.1)

Here most of the cases of KRL have been regularized, and in Rajasthan the action is yet to be taken. The representative from RVPNL intimated that they have already taken up the issue with the DISCOMs to take care of proper crossings and not to charge new lines without PTCC clearance and get all the power lines charged already, regularized, and a report to be sent to T&D Circle & CEA. For other circles also similar action to regularize the unilaterally charged 11 KV power lines should be taken up.

When the representative from RVPNL wanted to know the guidelines for the cases where no parallelism of telecom lines or cable in the vicinity is involved, Chairman directed representatives of T&D Circle to reiterate the guidelines for PTCC clearance of power lines and cables in cases where there are no telecom lines or cables in the vicinity of the proposed power lines or cables.

[RVPNL, DET (PTCC) New Delhi, T&D Circle all Central PTCC members of other circles]

 

 2.10    Unilateral Charging of Power Lines (80/4.0)

The 2nd meeting of the sub committee was held on 27.09.04 at Kochi, It was decided that minutes of the sub-committee will be circulated to all central PTCC members along with this minutes (Annexure 3) and will be taken up for discussion in the next central PTCC meeting for ratification.

[Action: All CLPTCC members]

 

2.11     Power line crossing Railway Tracks - charges towards way leave facility on Railway land for crossing - imposed by the Railways - waiver requested. (81/1.1)         

The representative from Railways explained the details and informed that Railways have not accepted the request. The matter has been referred to respective Ministries and needs to be further pursued further by CEA, New Delhi and T&D Circle.

[CEA, New Delhi and T&D Cricle]

           

2.12     Single window for submitting of proposals for PTCC clearance of power lines by PGCIL

(81/1.2)

Decision conveyed in the Minutes of 82nd Central PTCC meeting. Hence item is closed.

 

2.13     Soil Resistivity (SR) data (81/1.3)

Decision conveyed in the Minutes of 82nd Central PTCC meeting. Hence, item is closed

 

2.14     Submission of Telecom details by Railway & DOT and their marking on the route maps

(81/1.4)

Decision conveyed in the Minutes of 82nd Central PTCC meeting. Hence, item is closed.

 

2.15          Commercial electricity Supply at Army Camp, Kokrajhar (81/1.2)

Representative from CEA, New Delhi informed that this case is not with in the purview of PTCC and army authorities have been requested to approach local power authorities for necessary action. Item is closed.

 

2.16     Agenda from MPEB, Jabalpur regarding pending 400 KV, 220 KV and 132 KV power lines for want of Railway Telecom Details (82/1.0).

Representative from MPEB gave details of pending cases for railway details and their comments and requested for early action. Chairman directed him to give the details to the representative from Railways. The representative from Railways agreed to ensure early compliance.

[Action: Railways and DET (PTCC], Mumbai]

 

2.17     Aenda from Kerala State Electricity Board (KSEB) Thiruvananthapuram regarding estimates for cost of protection. (82/2.0)

DET (PTCC) Chennai has informed that CGM, Kerala Circle, Trivandrum has issued instructions to field units to submit details regarding type of protection, material, cable cost etc. to KSEB for their acceptance and payment and there are no disputed cases. Hence, the Item is closed.

 

2.18     Agenda from KPTCL, Bangalore regarding appointment of nodal officers/constitute sub-committee from Central PTCC to look into the PTCC cases where inordinate delay has occurred beyond prescribed time limits, in clearing the cases (82/3.0).

The decision has already been taken in the 82nd CPTCC meeting. This item is closed.

 

2.19          Agenda from BSNL Andhra Pradesh Telecom Circle, Hyderabad for settlements of PTCC accounts for shifting of Cuddapah - Rayachoty NCJ telecom line for erecting 400 kV Cuddapah - Madras transmission line. (82/4.0)

After discussion, the representative from AP Telecom Circle was advised to correspond with PGCIL with necessary clarifications along with a copy to CEA, New Delhi to resolve their issue regarding settlement of accounts.

[Action: AP Telecom Circle, PGCIL, CEA, New Delhi]

 

2.20     Agenda from Central Electricity Authority, New Delhi regarding constitution of Sub Committees by the Central PTCC for specific purpose (82/5.0).

The decision has been circulated to all concerned in the minutes of 82nd Central PTCC meeting. Item is closed.

 

2.21     Agenda from BSNL (T&D Circle), Jabalpur (82/6.0)

The proposal to include a member from regulatory commission in CPTCC was not agreed to in the 82nd Central PTCC meeting. This item is closed.

 

3.0       NEW ITEMS

 

3.1       Agenda from Central Electricity Authority New Delhi

3.1.1    Submission of Telecommunications details

Representative from T&D Circle informed that necessary instructions have been given to all DETs (PTCC) during the internal meeting held at Cochi on 27-09-04 to follow the PTCC guidelines while submitting the telecom details. This item is closed.

 

3.1.2    Issuance of route approval certificate by the DET (PTCC) - incorporation of induced voltage calculated by CEA.

After discussion it was decided that T&D Circle will issue necessary directives to DEs (PTCC). In case of any doubt regarding the screening factor of any cable, the DEs (PTCC) will refer the case to Circle Office for guidance. As far as possible the screening factor may be intimated along with telecom details by all DETs (PTCC). The Item is closed.

[Action: T&D Circle]

 

3.1.3    Formation of Committee for revision of PTCC manual, 1995.

CEA has prepared a CD of the draft PTCC manual of 1995 incorporating decisions taken by CLPTCC after 1995 and relevant abstract of Telegraphs Act 1885 & Electricity Act, 2003, which has been handed over to T&D Circle representative. T&D Circle would place this draft on their website for information of all central PTCC members along with the minutes of this meeting. All the members were asked to send their suggestions for additions/omissions to CEA, New Delhi and T&D Circle for early finalization of the draft. [Web site: www.tnd.bsnl.co.in]

[Action: T&D Circle, All Central PTCC members]

 

3.2         Agenda from K.P.T.C.L. Bangalore

3.2.1    To fix up a time limit in SLPTCC meeting (for cases where inordinate delay has occurred beyond prescribed time limits) for power lines which are ready and needs to be charged urgently, and if this time limit is not adhered to, it should be deemed to have been cleared by PTCC.

After prolonged discussion, it was decided that the representatives from KPTCL will meet CGM, Karnataka circle and appraise him of the difficulties and give the details of the priority cases for ensuring their early clearance. CGM, Karnataka Circle agreed to resolve the issue at local level. Chairman once again reiterated that all the central PTCC members should stick to the time limits specified in the PTCC manual and the delayed cases should be taken by the affected parties at appropriate level for early settle,ment. Charging of power lines without PTCC clearance and charging permission may not be resorted to, keeping in view the safety of telecom assets and personnel of BSNL. This item is closed.

 

3.3        Agenda from RVPNL, Jaipur

3.3.1        Delay in computation of induced voltage levels in r/o 220 KV power lines of RVPN by the Director (PTCC), CEA New Delhi and

3.3.2    Delay in furnishing Railway, Telecom / Block    Circuit details / comments in r/o PTCC cases of EHV power lines of RVPN by North - Western Railway, Jaipur:

 

 The representative from RVPNL was asked to give the details of the pending cases to the representatives of Railways and CEA, New Delhi, who in turn agreed to ensure the early clearance of the pending cases. This item is closed.

[Action: Railways, CEA, New Delhi and DET (PTCC), New Delhi]

 

3.4        Any other items with the permission of the chair:

3.4.1    Agenda from BSNL Hqrs: Formation of Regulations under Section 177 IE Act 2003:

JT. DDG (ML), BSNL Hqrs, New Delhi recalled the letter No. TD/LP-3028/I dated 28-01-2004 of T&D Circle, Jabalpur addressed to CEA, New Delhi in this connection and wanted to know the details of the action taken By CEA, New Delhi in this regard. In the meantime the representatives present wanted to go through the contents of the letter to offer their comments. After discussion it was decided that this item will be circulated along with agenda for 84th Central PTCC meeting and will be taken for discussion in that meeting.

 

 

 

3.4.2    Agenda from Maharashtra Electricity Board: Approval of 22 KV lines at local level:

After discussion it was decided that the present practice will continue and Maharashtra Electricity Board may take up the delayed cases if any in State level PTCC meeting. This item is closed.

 

The meeting concluded with vote of thanks by Shir G.C. Manna, GM (S) with a tentative decision to hold the next i.e., 84th Central PTCC meeting preferably at Gangtok in Eastern Region.

 

               

 

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Annexure 1

List of Participants

Telecom (B.S.N.L)

SN

Name (Shri)

Designation

Address

Telephone No

E-mail address

1.     

 V.Krisahna Kumar,

Chief General Manager

Chairman Central PTCC

T&D Circle, Jabalpur

0761-2621100

 

2.     

 S.A.Thomas,

Chief General Manager

Kerala Telecom Circle, Tiruvananthapuram

0471-2302200

 

3.     

A.C.Debnath,

Chief General Manager

NE-II Telecom Circle, Dimapur

03862-233600

 

4.     

Ramaganapthy, s

Chief General Manager

Karnataka Telecom Circle, Bangalore

080-25362323

 

5.     

S.R.Pillai,

Principal General Manager,

Ernakulam Telecom District, Ernakulam (Kochi)

0484-2376000

 

6.     

H.C.Soni,

General Manager (N)

T&D Circle, Jabalpur

0761-2621200

hcsoni@yahoo.com

7.     

G.C.Manna,

General Manager (S)

T&D Circle, Jabalpur

0761-2625700

 

8.     

N.N.Banerjee,

General Manager(D)

Assam Telecom Circle, Shillong

0361-2527007

gmdassam@bsnl.in

9.     

Smt. S.E.Rajam,

General Manager (TDP)

Ernakulam

04862-226500

gmtdp@bsnl.in

10.  

Charley Mathew,

General Manager (D)

Ernakulam Telephones

0484-2377300

charleymathew@bsnl.in

11.  

N.Haribabu,

General Manager (O)

Ernakulam Telephones

0484-2375500

nhbabu@bsnl.in

12.  

Devendra Yadav,

Jt. DDG (ML)

BSNL HQ New Delhi

 

devendra@bsnl.in

13.  

R.K.Choudhary,

Dy General Manager (T)

Secretary Central PTCC

T&D Circle, Jabalpur

0761-2622500

 

14.  

G.Gurumurthy,

Dy. General Manager A/T

T&D Circle, Chennai

044-24355555

dgmat@bsnl.in

15.  

Ramkrishna Iyer, S

Area Manager

Thodupuzha, Kerala

04862-225400

sramakrishnan@bsnl.in

16.  

T.R.Shaji,

Area Manager(Central)

Ernakulam Telephones

0484-2384700

shaji_tr@bsnl.in

17.  

V.E.Thomas,

Area Manager

Alwaye, Kerala

2629400

vethomas@bsnl.in

18.  

P.C.Johny,.

Area Manager

BSNL, Kochi, Kerala

0484-2211000

 

19.  

Ajith Kumar

Area Manager (Urban)

Ernakulam, Kerala

0484-2322929

sajithkumar@bsnl.in

20.  

V.Surendran,

Area Manager (VAS)

BSNL, Ernakulam

 

 

21.  

 N.Ramakrishna

Dy General Manager (O)

AP Telecom Circle

 

nramakrishna@bsnl.in

22.  

 Vinod P.Abraham

Dy General Manager (EP)

BSNL, Ernakulam

0484-2377211

vinod_pabraham@bsnl.in

23.  

 V.A.Venugopal

Dy General Manager (O)

Tiruvananthapuram

0471-2305599

venugopal_va@bsnl.in

24.  

 P.K.Khanna

Dy General Manager (O)

% CGM MH Circle Mumbai

022-22653146

dgmopmh@bsnl.in

25.  

 V.S.V.Prasad

AGM(IT)

T&D Circle, Jabalpur

0761-

ptcc@indiatimes.com

26.  

 C.I.Modi

DET (PTCC)

T&D Circle, Mumbai

022-26611530

 

27.  

 K.S.Azad

DET (PTCC)

T&D Circle, New Delhi

011-25558211

 

28.  

A.P.Bhattacharya

DET (PTCC),

T&D Circle, Kolkata

033-22413724

 

29.  

 M.V.Krishnan

DET (PTCC)

T&D Circle, Chennai

044-24356262

deptcc@yahoo.in

30.  

 D.B.Patel

AGM,

%CGMT, Gujarat Telecom Circle, Ahmedabad

 

depatel2@bsnl.in

31.  

 T.V.G.Kameswara Rao

AGM (plg)

AP Telecom Circle, Cuddapah

 

trgkameshwarrao@bsnl.in

32.  

 M.D.Pankajakshan,

AGM

% PGM, Ernakulam

0383-2378100

 

33.  

 M.Sharafudeen

AGM(O)

Kollam, Kerala

 

 

34.  

 R.Rajaram

AGM (O)

%CGMT Trivandrum

2763400

agmkolm@sancharnet.in

35.  

 H.H.Devinakatti

SDE (PTCC)

T&D Circle, Bangalore

2307767

vrajaram@bsnl.in

36.  

 N.K.Ananda Rao

SDE (PTCC)

T&D Circle, Bangalore

 

 

37.  

 R. Ramkumar Kori

SDE PTCC

T&D Circle, Mumbai

 

 

38.  

 C.Murugesan

AD (PTCC

% CGMT Kerala Circle

0471-2307450

murugesantvm@yahoo.in

39.  

R.Kumaradas

 SDE (PTCC)

BSNL, T&D Circle, Trivandrum

0471-2441200

 

CENTRAL ELECTRICITY AUTHORITY

1.     

 S.K.Mohan Ram

CE (LD&T)

Co-chairman, CLPTCC

CEA, New Delhi

011-26565183

 

2.     

 Ram Swarup

Director (PTCC)(LD&T)

CEA New Delhi

011-26859952

 

3.     

 K.K.Gupta

Dy. Director (PTCC) (LD&T)

CEA New Delhi

011-26859952

011-26565183

 

ELECTRICITY BOARDS & POWER UTILITIES

1.     

 V.K.Chaddha

Addl. SE

 CSEB Raipur (CH)

098261 29904

 

2.     

 G.M.Das

CE

Assam Electricity Board

0361-2541230

 

3.     

 R.B.Brahmabhat

SE (TR)

Guj.SEB, Vadodara

0265-2310582 to 85 Extn. 3322

cc-setr3@gebmail.com

4.     

 R.C.Katna

CE(T)

HP SEB, Hamirpur

01972-223531

 

5.     

 N.Babu

CE(SO)

KSEB, Ernakulam

 

 

6.     

L.Wilson

Dy CE

KSEB, Trivandrum

0471-2514682

 

7.     

 K.Sreedharan

EE

KSEB Trivandrun

 

 

8.     

Enr. Ali

ASE & Member Power

MPSEB

 

 

9.     

 D.K.Gupta

EE(Trans),

MPSEB Jabalpur

 

 

10.  

 V.K.Gupta

Director/TL

PSEB, Patiala

 

 

11.  

 A.K.Gupta

EE/ULDC

Bihar State Electricity Board

0825 17803

guptadk@sancharnet.in

12.  

 R.Festus Israil

SE(Trans-1)

TSEB, Chennai

 

setr@tnebnet.org

13.  

Rajiv Rastogi

Dy GM

UPPCL

 

 

14.  

 K.S.Sethi

Dy GM

Delhi Transo Ltd. Delhi

09818 314813

 

15.  

 Nirmaljitsingh

DGM,

Delhi Transo Ltd. Delhi

09818 648218

 

16.  

 S.P.Das

AEE (DM)

GRIDCO, Orissa

 

 

17.  

 G.C.Pati,

DM % CE(TP)

GRIDCO, Orissa

 

gopal_pati@yahoo.in

18.  

 J.Richard

AEE

KPTCL, Bangalore

080-22384279

 

19.  

 M.Narasimhachar

CE

KPTCL, Bangalore

080-22267034

 

20.  

 A.K.Jain

CE (TSE)

RVPNL, Rajasthan

0141-2203089

 

21.  

 K.Kishore Kumar

AE,

APTRANSCO, Hyderabad

04023396000 Extn.3518

kishoreae2001@yahoo.co.in

22.  

 M.Gopal Rao

CE(Construction)

APTRANSCO, Hyderabad

040-23317637

 

23.  

Er.D.N.Joshi

EE(A), MD,

PTUCL, Dehradun

0135-2762033 / 2762002

 

24.  

 H.G.Chhabra

Director P&D (TS)

Bakra Beas Management Bd

0172-2654468

dirpp@bbmb.nic.in

RAILWAYS

1.      

 Sanjay Dungrakoti

Director (Telecom)

Ministry of Railways, Delhi

 

dtele@rb.railnet.gov.in

2.      

 O.P.Tripathi,

SSE/T/Railway

Western Railway

 

 

3.      

 S.C.Biswas

SDE(PTCC)

Eastern Railway, Kolkata

 

 

4.      

 D.P.Samjdar

Dy CSTE/Tele/HQ

Eastern Railway Kolkata

033-22487374/

22224710

 

DEFENCE

1.      

Major R.S.N.Satish

OC, 91 Inf., Bde Sig Copy

Army.

0471-2352373

thambisatiswh@rediffmail.com

               

 

Annexure  2

CIRCLE WISE POSITION OF COMPARATIVE STATEMENT OF UNGUARDED POWER CROSSINGS

S.No.

Name of Circle

Position as on 31-03-2004

Position as on 31-08-2004

I

SOUTHERN REGION

POWER

TELECOM

OTHERS

TOTAL

POSITION ON

POWER

TELECOM

OTHERS

TOTAL

POSITION ON

1

A.P.

8

0

0

8

31.03.04

180

0

0

180

31.08.04

2

KNK

123

1

0

124

31.03.04

154

0

0

154

31.08.04

3

KRL

0

0

0

0

31.03.04

0

0

0

0

31.08.04

4

TN

9

4

0

13

31.03.04

20

2

0

22

31.08.04

II

WESTERN REGION

POWER

TELECOM

OTHERS

TOTAL

POSITION ON

POWER

TELECOM

OTHERS

TOTAL

POSITION ON

1

GUJ

19

0

0

19

31.03.04

1

0

0

1

31.08.04

2

MH.

243

5

0

248

31.03.04

62

22

0

84

31.08.04

3

M.P.

187

13

0

200

31.03.04

170

62

0

232

31.08.04

4

GOA

0

0

0

0

Not reported

0

0

0

0

Not reported

III

NORTHERN  REGION

POWER

TELECOM

OTHERS

TOTAL

POSITION ON

POWER

TELECOM

OTHERS

TOTAL

POSITION ON

1

UP(EAST)

869

757

4

1630

31.03.04

836

665

5

1506

31.08.04

2

Uttaranchal

112

1

55

168

31.03.04

112

1

55

168

31.08.04

3

J&K

 

 

 

 

Not reported

 

 

 

0

Not reported

4

HARYANA

344

180

10

534

31.03.04

112

1

55

168

31.08.04

5

UP (WEST)

92

22

0

114

31.03.04

92

22

0

114

31.08.04

6

PUNJAB

33

0

2

35

31.03.04

8

0

7

15

31.08.04

7

H.P.

44

51

0

95

31.03.04

44

51

0

95

31.08.04

8

RAJ

1782

59

305

2146

31.03.04

1402

56

305

1763

31.08.04

IV

EASTERN  REGION

POWER

TELECOM

OTHERS

TOTAL

POSITION ON

POWER

TELECOM

OTHERS

TOTAL

POSITION ON

1

ORISA

154

5

5

164

31.03.04

0

0

0

0

31.08.04

2

ASSAM

402

463

0

865

31.03.04

400

439

0

839

31.08.04

3

BIHAR

0

0

0

0

31.03.04

0

0

0

0

31.08.04

4

NEI & II

0

0

0

0

31.03.04

0

0

0

0

31.08.04

5

WB

0

0

0

0

Not reported

0

0

0

0

Not reported

6

Jharkhand

0

0

0

0

31.03.04

0

0

0

0

31.08.04

 


 

Annexure 3

Government of India

Central Electricity Authority

Load Despatch & Telecommunication |Division

PTCC Directorate

NREB Complex, 18-A, Shaheed Jeet Singh Marg,

Katwaria Sarai, New Delhi-110 016

No. LD&T/1/2004-PTCC/                                                                  Date: 5th October, 2004

 

To

Shri H.C. Soni,

General Manager (N)

T&D Circle,

Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd.,

Sanchar Vikas Bhavan,

Residency Road,

Jabalpur-482 001

 

Subject:   Minutes of the Second meeting of the Sub-Committee on unilateral charding of power lines by SEBs/Power Utilities without PTCC clearance - imposing penalty.

 

Sir,

 

            Enclosed please find herewith the minutes of the meeting of sub-Committee "on unilateral charging of power lines by SEBs/Power Utilities without PTCC clearance - imposing penalty" held in the conference hall of KSEB, Kaloor, Cochin (Kerala) on 27th September, 2004 for your information.

 

            It is requested that the minutes of the Sub-Committee may be circulated along with the minutes of the 83rd Central PTCC meeting held on 28th September, 2004 at Cochin.

 

Encl: As above                                                                                              Yours faithfully,

 

Sd/---

(S.K. Mohanan)

Chief engineer (LD&T)

Minutes of the second meeting of the Sub-Committee on unilateral charging of power lines by SEBs/Power Utilities without PTCC clearance - imposing of token penalty held at Kaloor, Cochin (Kerala) on 27th September, 2004

 

            The 2nd meeting of the sub-Committee was held in the conference Hall of KSEB, Kaloor, Cochin (Kerala) on 27th September, 2004 on unilateral charging of power lines by SEBs/Power Utilities without PTCC clearance - imposing of token penalty. The following officers from power side and BSNL attended the meeting.

 

Power Side

1.                  Shri S.K. Mohanan, Chief Engineer (LD &T), CEA, New Delhi

2.                  Shri Ram Swarup, Director, PTCC, CEA, New Delhi

3.                  Shri V.K. Gupta, Director (TR), PSEB, Patiala

4.                  Shri R. Festus Israel, SE (TR), TNEB, Chennai

5.                  Shri L. Wilson, Deputy Chief Engineer, Member (P), SLLPTCC, TVM

6.                  Shri K.K. Gupta, Deputy Director, PTCC, CEA, New Delhi

 

Telecom Side

 

1.                  Shri H.C. Soni, GM (N), T&D Circle, BSNL, Jabalpur

2.                  Shri G.C. Manna, GM (S), T&D Circle, BSNL, Jabalpur

3.                  Shri Devendra Yadav, Jt. DDG (ML), BSNL Hqrs, New Delhi

4.                  Shri R.K. Choudhary, Dy. GM (T), T&D Circle, BSNL, Jabalpur

5.                  Shri V.S.V. Prasad, AGM (IT), T&D Circle, BSNL, Jabalpur

 

The Sub-Committee reviewed the cases of unilateral charging of 11/33 KV power lines by SEBs/Power Utilities whether there are any improvement in the matter after the first meeting of the Sub-Committee held on 23rd February, 2004.

 

After detailed discussion, the Sub-Committee recommended the following:

 

1.                  The Chief Electrical Inspector/electrical Inspector of Centre and State may ensure the power lines should have PTCC clearance before permission is granted by him to SEBs/Power Utilities to charge these lines.

 

2.                  The existing provisions applicable for default of the conditions laid as per the Act shall be applicable in cases of unilateral charging of power lines by SEBs/Power Utilities.

 

3.                  In addition, the Sub-Committee recommended that the existing time limit for various activities involved in PTCC clearance including submission of estimate, payment, completion of protection work etc, should be reiterated to all respective field units for proper implementation by CEA, New Delhi and T&D Circle, BSNL, Jabalpur.

 

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